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anahata: Taoist Origins of Thogal and Nying Thig I am now fairly convinced that Vimilamitra learned thogal in China from Taoist masters related to the "Mao-Shan" Taoist lineage. The quotes below from their ancient texts should prove this, besides we know Vimalamitra studied with Shri Singha for twenty years near Wutai Shan in Eastern China, the exact location of many "Mao-Shan" practitioners. This tradition traces itself back to 100 b.c., but became prominent around 300 a.d. (It is also possible that the 17 tantras of Nyingthig had no connection with Vimalamitra, and were written by the specific lamas who claimed to have found them 300 years after Vimalamitra’s death. They may have had contact with this Taoist lineage) Here are a few absolutely amazing quotes regarding thogal thigles that they contemplate: "The precious cauldron (yu ting) is a cavity in the center of the brain... It's left and right sides are linked with the pupils of the eyes by two channels; and it is also connected with the heart. Hence it is said that essential nature is in the heart which manifests through the two eyes." "These deities are not born from embryos like human beings, but are "born from emptiness through transformation" in the celestial spheres. By means of transformation they become breaths, little children, or fully dressed ladies accompanied by maid-servants. The colored breaths condense and metamorphose. Forming and reforming, these fluctuating visions generate themselves in interconnected chains. In this regard, the terms hun-hua or he-hua ("transform by uniting") constantly appear. These deities change and also move about. They constantly frolic, spinning around and moving, throughout the heavens. ....Made from light..." "These expressions, randomly chosen from the texts, are often only a few words in length but imply the presence of specific preliminary exercises. The Chen-kao mentions several of these for example, the exercise of crossing one's hands over the eyebrows to see the sun..." “Sunlight surrounds his body and he rises up to the Palace of Universal Yang." In the Yü-i chieh-lin ching, this experience is described in the following way: [The adept] sees in the sun five colors flowing into a halo which reaches his whole body and descends down to his feet. Through concentration, he then makes the five breaths rise up to the top of his skull. Thereupon all of the five colors of the floating halo formed from sunlight penetrate into his mouth. Then a Purple Breath as large as the pupil of the eye spontaneously appears inside this floating cloud made from sunlight. This breath is made up of ten layers and blazes in the middle of the five-colored light. ... "This exercise concludes with the general inflammation of the whole person of the visionary carried to the point of incandescence. As the text says: "[The adept] must make sure that the sun's light sets his whole self ablaze so that, inside, it [the light] spreads up to his intestines and stomach and that, both inside and outside, he feels as if everything is illuminated." Whoever regularly devotes himself to these practices will acquire a "vermillion face," his whole body will be "luminous and shining" or will "radiate an extraordinary light," "the nape of his neck will manifest a rounded brilliance," and he will "illuminate the eight directions.'' Living as long as the sun and moon, he is transported to the stars.In a word, the visionary becomes "light" ... "As the text cited above confirms, Lao-tzu is in this way able "to make himself bright or dark, either to disappear or to be present." According to a hallowed saying, one of the powers commonly promised to the assiduous adept is the ability "when seated, to be present and when standing, to disappear." Thus the faculty of becoming invisible is constantly associated with the power of appearing at will, of extending one's sight, and of "releasing the bridle." "The Shen-chou ching's"Method for Exiting from Being and Entering into Non-Being,Liberating the Body and Escaping by Transformation into Fluid Light" gives the adept, after he has practiced for seven years, the power "to transform his body into seventy-two lights (which alludes to Lao-tzu's seventy-two supernatural marks)'' and "to disappear and appear, to be visible or hidden." From Vimalamitra's biography: "Vimalamitra took heed of Vajrasattva’s advice, hastily returned home to grab his alms bowl and began the journey to China, where he met Śrī Siṃha and subsequently studied the Nyingtik for twenty years. "Vimalamitra reportedly concealed four Nyingtik texts in the caves of Samye Chimpu (bsam yas 'chim phu). After thirteen years in Tibet, he returned to Wutai Shan (ri bo rtse lnga) in China and achieved the rainbow body." I found another Chinese text that I first read 38 years ago. It's "The Secrets of Cultivation of Essential Nature and Eternal Life", written by the Taoist master Chao Pi Ch’en (born 1860). It's an amazing text that describes the entire process for attaining the "body of light", where one's physical body completely dissolves during life, not at death. It's very similar to the "The Secret of the Golden Flower", but with much more detail and with emphasis on out of body travel and dissolution of the physical body: "THE PRECIOUS CAULDRON (yu ting) is a cavity in the centre of the brain (between and behind the eyes) and is the seat of (essential) nature, that is the original cavity of spirit (yuan shen shih or the ancestral cavity, tsu ch’iao); its left and right sides are linked with the pupils of the eyes by two (psychic) channels; and it is also connected with the heart. Hence it is said that essential nature is (in) the heart which manifests through the two eyes." "...this is the (tsu ch’iao) cavity in the centre of the brain which is linked with the two eyes and also with the heart. If in spite of this connection the precious light does not manifest at the early stage of practice, it is because the centre of (essential) nature (center of brain) is still closed." "In order to open this centre of (essential) nature the practiser should place an oil lamp in front of him and concentrate his eyes on its flame..." "When the golden light of this immortal seed manifests for the first time before his eyes, the practiser should immediately provide himself with the four necessities such as the required implements, provisions, companions and a quiet place for advanced training. If he is young and has parents and children to look after, he cannot retire to the mountain to train for the breakthrough and final leap over the worldly." He calls the first stage "break through" and the second stage "leap over" with those words translated directly from the Chinese. He also says: "It leads to the complete extinction of all phenomena." "The training should continue no matter how long it takes until the four elements (that make the body) scatter, and space pulverises leaving no traces behind; this is the golden immortal stage of the indestructible diamond-body. This is the ultimate achievement of the training which now comes to an end". Keep in mind that this lineage of teaching is continuous from at least 100 b.c. As attested from dated Taoist texts. The major Mao-Shan texts were written and practiced between 300-400 a.d. It's definitely not a recent reworking of Dzogchen thogal texts. Thogal itself isn't mentioned until after 1000 a.d. in Dzogchen texts. It's completely absent as a technology in original earliest Dzogchen or Nubs Sangye Yeshe would have mentioned it at around 890 a.d. Even the term "break through" didn't exist in earliest Dzogchen texts. Taoists teach at the center of the brain, at the pineal gland, the 'pure awareness' resides. It's called Shen or spirit. It is identical to rigpa as the "son-light" in Dzogchen and has the exact location as the Yangti lamp called the "thigle tongpa dronma". It is also the location in Nying Thig that Longchenpa calls the location of the "nature of mind" as Sem Nyid. As above, they mention the "nature" in the heart radiates up through a channel passing through the center of the brain there splitting into two branches that end at the pupils, through which the various inner "lights" shine out in front of the practitioner. The text further mentions that the eyes are key and that the Shen (rigpa) resides in the eyes. It says the body is completely negative yin energy and only the eyes are the positive yang energy. It says by fully activating the yang of the eyes that the pure yang energy will transform the entire body into pure yang; at which point it dissolves into pure yang light as an immortal Light body. The 17 Tantras of Mangagde showcase this new hybrid technology. We also know the 17 Tantras of Nying thig post-date Semde and Longde. It also seems Longde is even closer to the Taoist practices as not all Taoist systems use sunlight, as Longde doesn't use thogal. Wutai Shan was also the home of many Mao-Shan masters. Jackson Peterson https://www.facebook.com/groups/389074547867876/permalink/1747756581999659/ Группа Dzogchen Thogal

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Suraj: Маошанская традиция даосизма вообще очень близка к Ваджраянским методам, активно использую висуализации, работы с элементальными силами и конечно же напрямую с энергетикой человака. Лет 15 назад профессор Торчинов на своём форуме упоминал об этой школе и давал некоторые ссылки на литературу данного направления. Тогда-то я кое что прикупил и почитал... Жаль конечно, что он ушёл от нас так рано. В русскоязычно интернете за 12 лет так и не появилось соразмерной по качеству форумной площадки...

Suraj: Нашёл у себя в библиотеке, книгу которую рекомендовал проф. Торчинов (данные ниже). Похоже, с тех пор ничего по маошанскому направлению толком опубликовано не было... Taoist Meditation: The Mao-shan Tradition of Great Purity by Isabelle Robinet (Author) Series: SUNY series in Chinese Philosophy and Culture Paperback: 316 pages Publisher: SUNY Press (April 29, 1993) Language: English ISBN-10: 0791413608 ISBN-13: 978-0791413609 https://www.amazon.com/Taoist-Meditation-Mao-shan-Tradition-Philosophy/dp/0791413608/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1541702038&sr=1-2&keywords=Robinet+%3D+Taoism

anahata: The Secret of the Golden Flower http://thesecretofthegoldenflower.com/index.html

TAIFENG: Ну почему ничего? Вот например: http://www.kunpendelek.ru/library/daoism/booksdao/golden-books/

Suraj: TAIFENG пишет: Вот например: http://www.kunpendelek.ru/library/daoism/booksdao/golden-books/ spasibo

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